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November 03, 2008


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Lakota in GA

I am so moved by this, Heidi. My sentiments, exactly....saddened.


Any sadness I have quickly turns to outrage and disgust. Senator Obama will not prevail precisely because of his corrupt campaign tactics and thuggery. His supporters may excuse him but most Americans will not.

Hope that cheers you up a bit.


This has been a season of disillusionment and betrayel. Very few have had the courage to stand up and speak out, and with good cause. You loose friends, family members, part of your identity. Before, I was a mother, a lawyer, a sister, a Clinton supporter and a democrat. I am still a mother and a lawyer. Part of who I was is gone. That does make me sad.

You are one of the very few who have taken a public stand, and no matter what I have gone through taking a stand against the tide as a private person, I know you have been through 12xs over.

Heidi, I have nothing to offer you to cheer you up other than to say without your friendship and without knowing you were always, ALWAYS out there fighting so hard for me, my daughters, and this country, I couldn't have made it through.

I wish I could say it's going to be okay, but I don't think it will be okay. At least not for a very, very long time.


Thank you Heidi for caring. For the constant reminders of what is right, of fighting even when people don't want to hear you. I'm reminded of conversations I've been trying to have with several highly intelligent people about truth and intellectual freedom and unfortunately I'm thinking that Erich Fromm in "Escape from Freedom" and the parable of the "Grand Inquisitor", have it right, people don't want to think for themselves. They would rather be comfortable and drink the kool-aid, than face the truth and admit their own cowardice. The rebels and activists are now the ones standing behind the podium in our 2008 version of "1984".

We are here Heidi, don't be sad...we are here.


I know how you feel. I used to feel sad but no more. I feel dirty today and can't believe that I had voted democratic all these years. Me and hubby are independents now so we will vote for candidates we like and respect from now on. the D and R are the same to us. Integrity and trust must be earned. Thanks for your efforts and insights.


I am 100% with you on this one, Heidi; Obama & Co's tactics wouldn't work, if most people wouldn't accept them, that *is* deeply saddening.
But after acknowledging our own sadness over this we must rise above it and promote, as well as keep on expecting, ethical behaviour in all of life's domains, knowing that we will be left sad again and again, but also knowing that only a little bit of light is needed for darkness to vanish. Looking at the endeavours of the brave woman you have presented on your blog, we just need to stand up, follow their example and soldier on.

Cyn NY

Heidi, once again, you've managed to put in to words what so many of us feel. I call it agida. I feel unsettled and on edge. Maybe once I pull the lever for McCain/Palin, I will snap out of it, but I don't think so.

November 5th is a new day. We cannot forget. We cannot become complacent - there is a lot of work to do.


"Please: even if professional politicians will not be honest with us, let us at least be honest with one another."

And let there be a critical mass of this honesty. Enough to make significant change in the Democratic (sic) Party and elections throughout the U.S. Lyndon B. Johnson: "We preach the virtues of democracy abroad. We must practice its duties here at home. Voting is the first duty of democracy."

Now we're finding that the "first duty" is not enough. We need to secure the vote.


The philosophy that "the ends justify the means" is a very dangerous one! Where does it end?

What we have seen and been witness to this election season is highly disturbing and abhorrant to me! When presidential candidates can be called "prostitutes", when little old ladies are intimidated on their way to exercise their right to vote, when our deceased and mentally challenged are "used" for the sake of a vote, when the media is so biased they don't even vet a presidential candidate...where does it end and by what means?

I believe when a country such as ours goes down this road it is in jeopardy of losing its way permanently!! That all Americans don't see this as a danger to our very way of life is a sad commentary!!

Yes, we can all justify almost anything...but at what cost and where, oh where, does it end???


Over the years I have worked with many people, most of whom were hard working and sincere, with the exception of one prima donna. It was only in the 1970s that I began to see overt gamesmanship being played out by new young staff members, all male at the time. In the late 1980s and 1990s, I saw the game played by more women. One had worked her "feminine wiles" on most of the men in the office who also were snowed by her PhD from Paris. Several years later it was discovered that her degree was nothing more than a diploma mill piece of paper and that she was an outstanding "con man." The second woman was also able to manipulate the men in the organization and smoothly back stab some very fine, long-employed women to work her way up the ladder beyond those much more qualified. She finally was "discovered" and "encouraged" to leave to take an even higher post in another organization. In other words, she kept winning even though the bosses had discovered her weaknesses.

When I first began watching Obama's gamesmanship, I instantly recognized his "type" as that of the second person. For some reason, his "shell" game
seems to keep working. In addition to everything you have cited, that also makes me very sad.


I'm a pessimist. To me the rise of Obama to power through such dishonest means, cheered on by tens of millions of people who should know better, is a sign of something much bigger and more sinister. Look at how many civilizations have burned. The most recent one in Europe starting in the 1930s. Are we witnessing another one? We'll find out soon enough.


Heidi, whenever I feel sad--regardless of what is causing me to be sad--I realize that I have given over my power to events. When I change that sadness to action and determination, then I regain my sense of power, and, also, of self-respect. Sometimes it's hard to do, but sadness means looking backward and reflecting, whereas action means looking to the future. You are a woman of action.


HeidiLi, I too am sad and disgusted with what the DNC and the media have wrought.

I am forever greatful to you and Marc and all the other brave Americans who had the courage to inform, fight and not give up, when it came to exposing the corruption that has been so rampant.

When the day is over, you will be one of the few who can truly say they have done all they can.

I have learned so much from your writings and the principled stand that you have taken.

Please know that your efforts have not been for naught. They have made a difference.

Thank You.

Susan B.

Sad is too mild a word to use for this election. If Obama wins this I will unofficially call Nov. 5 a day of mourning in America. I watched a movie on TCM yesterday called "The Mortal Storm", which took place in Germany in 1933 with Hitler being named Chancellor and he immediately began stiffling any opposing opinions. You were either with him or aganist him, and those who were against were brulalized, beat up, threatened, murdered and swifly gotten rid of. Obama is not Hitler but he is dictatorial in that he wants to stifle any ideology other than his own (i.e. he threw the 3 news reporters off the plane recently who dared to write anything negative about THE CHOSEN ONE). This election has been an eye-opener for me in that I am much more tolerant of Republican points of view and realize that there are good ideas on both sides of the aisle. We were meant to have checks and balances in our government and I fear Obama with a filibuster proof democratic congress. That is a recipe for disaster just as it was with George W. Bush having no dissenting opinions (just like Hitler, Stalin, Castro or any person who wants to impose his ideology at all costs). I am ashamed to call myself a democrat. THE DNC HAS TRULY LOST ITS WAY.

Wonk the Vote

The Democratic party, under the "cool" leadership of DROP (Dean, Reid, Obama, Pelosi), has completed the transformation into the very thing which it railed against for many years. It is sad.


Heidi, once again you've stated it perfectly. Though on the eve of the election I will be turning my sadness into steel. If the Illinois Senator wins on Tuesday November 4th, the first day of the new struggle begins on November 5th, Guy Fawkes Day, for reinstating democracy, and demanding integrity from our elected officials

We are a nation of hypocrites when the fraud and fascism of an illegitimate nominee is given approval by those who have the awareness of what he did. These people cursed it in 2000 when it went against their desires, but embrace it now if it serves their need. It is a lack of integrity that to me speaks to much of the problem that infects our society, and prevents it from moving forward as a champion of equal rights, of human rights.

My dear friend, you are not alone, and this is not the end.


Heidi, I couldn't agree more. It's been amazing to me to see Dems unaware of what went on and simply voting Dem. But it's far more depressing when I see Dems who do know what went on, but support Obama anyway...Happy to be for a "winner" and actualy glad the press is for " their guy".You would think that would buy them a clue. These Dems are experancing the Stockholm syndrome to the max.

But thank you so much for your work and writings. One must make a stand. What happens aftwards, we can't control. But we stood up.

And I thank Hillary Clinton. If she had not fought as hard as she did for as long as she did, we would not know now as much about the Obama cabal as we do....and it's vital we do know.


Heidi, I don't give Obama credit for his win. I'm of the opinion that the Democratic Party that backed him from the beginning and stabbed Hillary gets the credit. I've been around long enough to know that Hillary made mistakes in her campaign, but those mistakes were not deadly. Even with the backing of Obama from the who's who of the Democratic Party, her campaign accomplished the impossible.

I suspect Obama will fail because the problems we face are too many and too big to be handled by a man who has demonstrated a lack of competence throughout his life.



I am sad too. I did feel somewhat better by voting a split ticket this weekend. Somehow deep inside I felt that I was being true to myself - regardless of what was going on around me or the final outcome. It kind of feels like when my grandmother died the day before I graduated from high school. I knew she was gone forever but I still took comfort in that part of her that still lived in me. I believe in ripples and I believe that our dreams will be realized if not now but somewhere - somehow in the next curve in the road. The sadness is the time was not now.


Heidi, thank you for your blog. It is a time of great sadness for many of us. As a lifelong democrat and a outspoken supporter of progressive causes this site is a emotional outlet for the abuses many of us have taken from our relatives and friends for not supporting the chosen one. I just don't get it, this was supposed to be a time when we were going to elected a truly transformative candidate instead we get a highly branded, glossily packaged candidate who sounds like what we voted against 4 years ago. Change is not about your skin color, or your gender, or even your political view points. Change is about serving the interest of the nation and the people who live there. I only want some who is honest to me, respects me, and does not serve in the interest of the few and powerful. Heidi don't lose your voice it is not yours but ours.


Amen. Thank you for continuing to be a voice of sanity.

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